Category: Let's talk
yesterday I was on here when two users were speaking spannish to each other. A couple of other users became annoyed at this, and pointed out that everyone on here should speak english. A debate on the matter insued, unfortunately I had to leave shortly after so do not know how it turned out, but it did leave me wondering one thing. Why is it, that those of us who are english speaking, seem to assume that the rest of the world will speak english to accommodate us? Even when we go to foreign countries, the brits are notorious for the fact that they expect everyone to speak english to them, rather than learning a few phrases of the language of the country they are visiting. As someone who grew up in a foreign country, I think my attitude to this is slightly different, when I was 9 I went to a predominantly afrikaans speaking school, they did not speak english, and I did not speak afrikaans. I had two choices. I either learned the language, or insisted on speaking english and did not make friends. So I became fluent in Afrikaans within 6 months, and that has now left me with an interest in languages, and I therefore always like to learn phrases/words in the language of a country I might be visiting. But for the most part, I do not feel this is a view shared by my fellow Brits, or dare I even say, english speaking people of the world (although the brits are very bad for it)
It works both ways. The British attitude is not very good to things like this, but no more is the American annoying practice of talking in a very condescending manner to foreigners including the English when they come over here and tour. However, I don't like all the immigrants coming here and making no effort to fit in. As for the specific matter viz. languages spoken on the zone, whoever insisted that they speak English should get a grip. i'd rather they spoke Spanish than paraded their sex-lives and declared their undying horniness as some have done on here, and we all know who those people are.
no you're absolutely right. I thin that anyone wanting to come and live in this country should be obliged to learn to speak english. My problem is with people on an international site who feel that only english should be spoken, or people going to a country where english is not spoken as the first language, and expecting others to speak english for their benefit.
I agree with ya'll! People should be able to speak whatever language they want to each other on here. However, I'd say that if they're sending public quicknotes, they probably should send them in English, since it is what is predominantly spoken on this site. Also, remember, this site is hosted by Americans, it is a .com web site, and so the prevalent language is usually assumed to e English on such a site. As I said though, other languages don't bother me a bit.
I agree with everything that has been said, and I was on the zone yesterday when this little debate got started; I just didn't really get involved even though I wish I had. Like you guys have been saying, even though this site was created by Americans, it is still open to everyone from all walks of life and from all parts of the world. I mean, to those people out there (You know who you are) who think that everyone should speak English How would you feel if you went to a foreign country where you didn't understand the language. Wouldn't you feel somewhat relieved if you met someone who spoke you're first language? However, this is not to say that people traveling abroad shouldn't learn at least some of the language that is spoken in that country. I am interested in languages and traveling and learning about other cultures, and one of the things I like the most about the zone is that it is an international site. As far as the private and public QNS thing, while I do believe in freedom of speech and in people's right to say what they want, I think that it is somewhat an inconvienience when people are sending public quick notes in foreign languages, because they are PUBLIC meaning everyone should have access to them. PS- For those of you who think everyone in the world should speak English just so it will be convenient for you... JODANSE!!!! Oh sorry, don't know what that means? Oh, oh well... LOOK IT UP!!!
I agree with everything that has been said, and I was on the zone yesterday when this little debate got started; I just didn't really get involved even though I wish I had. Like you guys have been saying, even though this site was created by Americans, it is still open to everyone from all walks of life and from all parts of the world. I mean, to those people out there (You know who you are) who think that everyone should speak English How would you feel if you went to a foreign country where you didn't understand the language. Wouldn't you feel somewhat relieved if you met someone who spoke you're first language? However, this is not to say that people traveling abroad shouldn't learn at least some of the language that is spoken in that country. I am interested in languages and traveling and learning about other cultures, and one of the things I like the most about the zone is that it is an international site. As far as the private and public QNS thing, while I do believe in freedom of speech and in people's right to say what they want, I think that it is somewhat an inconvienience when people are sending public quick notes in foreign languages, because they are PUBLIC meaning everyone should have access to them. PS- For those of you who think everyone in the world should speak English just so it will be convenient for you... JODANSE!!!! Oh sorry, don't know what that means? Oh, oh well... LOOK IT UP!!!
This site is produced in English so obviously it attracts users who speak English and I think that it is very ignorent of people to speak in public on quicknotes languages that not all of us can understand. Cmitchel put forward a deesent suggestion by saying yesterday they should talk privately on quicknotes to each other. That to me was a perfect and logical solution. I also said in the debate that if a person from England goes to Japan they should speak Japanese to the people over there and not expect them to speak English. If a Japanese person comes over to England from Japan, they should speak English not Japanese. Basically you should speak the language of the country in which you are situated and if that is impossible, then you shouldn't be in that country.
I agree with WW here. I certainly have no problem with people speaking whatever language they speak but if you're gonna do so, you should do it private messages. And to whoever said that you pick up the language as you go along, that's not true. I can travel from the US and go to puerto Rico and not get anything a person has said to me unless I'm taught in english what they're saying. A friend of mine is from ecuador, and she can barely speak english, yet she's gradually learning. That's because she had another friend of mine, who's pretty fluent with english, and is also from Ecuador, and she translated to her in spanish what was said in english.
I agree with Michelle, if people can't speak english, they can't speak English, but if people were having a conversation in english, and everybody was talking to everybody else, and then 2 people came in a room and just started talking in another language without regard to the other english speaking people in the room, that would be indeed annoying, and in my opinion, a bit rude. I bet if spanishpeople were speaking in spanish, and we came in the room and started talking english without any reguard for thepossibility that they couldn't understand what we were talking about, they probably wouldn't like it one bit. I agreewith chelse, if they want to just talk to each other in theirown language, they should do it in private. I think, but of course, this is the internet I know, and there's no such thing on the net for acknowledging who is in the room first, and if they were in the room first, and people went in and demanded or expected them to talk english, well, that would be rude and disrespectful to them, but if the Americans were in the room first, and they just burst in and took the other room over in the other language, then the ones who were talking first couldn't do anything, couldn't even get another word in to ask the ones they were talking to to go to another room with them.
wonderwoman
Well I once was here when people spoke Italian, and another time my BF and another one spoke Jamaican. What's the problem on this? The only thing I could say is - maybe they could send each other private notes, but I don'T have a problem with other languages. If there was someone from Germany, I'd certainly speak German to him sometimes - where's the problem?
hmm... about going o other countries, I think if someone should be in a certain country at least to learn speaking english could be the best solution since english has become an universal language. However I would like to speak spanish with someone else in the zone, but same at school, if you talk spanish to someone they will trow bull.... oney at you about sex and nasty stuff. If I am going to talk in a foreign language such as spanish, which most americans love to learn then no problem, but if I talk in another language then I would talk in a regular basis. Hmm, but I always wonder why everyone knows the swearing spanish words... I didn' even know a swearing english word till I started school here in United States. So, based from this point spanish is a language, not a swearing word code...
hmmm, you do have to remember this site is worldwide. And it's not that we are all in the same country and speaking the same language. What makes you think your language is any more important than others? Maybe they don't like it if we are speaking and they come in and want to speak there language. Should they have the right to think we should learn there language as well as ours? What makes one more important than the others. I do however agree if you are moving to another country you should learn the language there. That's only if you are living in that area that speaks a different language. Come on people, remember, this is a world wide site and that is what makes it interesting all types of people from all over and of course with that, we are going to get all types of language! smile- angel
If I were to visit a Spanish speaking country, or any country for that matter, I think it should be expected of me to know some thing of that language. The same goes for anyone visiting the U.S. I live in the south and a lot of Mexicans are around here. I am not fluent in Spanish, I only know what I learned from school. That wasn't much. For me, it only works in small conversations and simple requests. The more complexed, the more communacation is lost. It can be qwite fusstrating. As for people chatting back and forth on a, open to all parts of the world, web site, then that's just fine. I would only suggest to make an efert to speak to everyone else in English.
I understand this is a freedom of speach site, but one thing you folks don't get is there are people that want to learn spanish, and if you're speaking this language fluently and nobody's able to join you, than that's totally unfair. I mean come on folks, be considerate of others here who are spanish illiterate. Otherwise like I said, carry it out in private messages.
and what if they are english illeterate? What if they can only barely speak English? smile- angel
Then they probably couldn't read the text of this site.
Or they can have someone who knows spanish translate what is going on. Otherwise, why would they go to a country if they can't speak the language?
um there not comming here, they are talking on this site. lol! smile- angel
Besides, if u really want to know what is being said, simply use google or one of these other sites that does automatic translations. Granted, it's by no means perfect, but if you really want to know what is being said, u will look for ways of finding out. Given this possibility, I don't see y u people just don't do that instead of wining and complaining. People r going to speak different languages whether u like it or not, so get used to it. With regard to going to another country, if u don't at least make an effort to learn a couple of frazes in the native language, that is nothing short of being rude. Especially if u r going to be someplace for an extended period of time. Even if all the people u encounter do speak your language fluently, the local people will always apreciate the fact that u took time to learn abit of their language. Besides, a little education never heard anybody, did it? good bye/ tot ziens/ adios/ geia sou/ au revoir/ sya nara /auf wiedersegen
We shouldn't have to make all that effort to find out what they are saying. I wouldn't join a site written in Swedish and speak English when the majority of users of the site didn't understand it, but since I know no Swedish, I wouldn't join a site written in Swedish.
Ok, I feel peole, esecially WW are confusing two different issues here.
#1: If you go to a country to live there, even for as little as 6 months you need to make an effort to appreciate that country and adjust to its culture, this includes learning the language, the habits. Of course you can keep your own but you need to learn to appreciate the host country's culture, make friends, learn about peole there and especially make an effort to learn a language, how frustrating e.g. going into tChina town or to a Chinese restaurant in New York and not even be able to speak to a person and worse yet, the whole Spanish speaking thing. No, Spanish is a beatutiful language and it's cool but I still feel we are making the U.S. too bilingual, if people from Cuba/Caribbean/Central American move here (and that's great) they should learn the language.
Now the second part is
2) Tourism and internet, those, I feel, fall into the same category.There's nothing wrong with visiting countries, if you get a chance and, yes, you don't have to know the language, after all if you only travelled to countries whose languages you fully know you'd never go anywhere, peole wuldn't get interested in other cultures, see other opportunities and stream of people and goods around the planet would slow down considerably and there is nothing positive about it, heck, there are entire nations who survive on tourism alone and, believe me, they learn the tourists language because the tourists make the money, the Madiv Islands for example, paradise of resorts and beaches and, guess wht, the people visiting there don't speak the native language and the inhabitants are more than happy with that. I think learning a few phrases is polite and fun and will engage politeness and interest if you're visiting a country but that's all you have to do. As for the net, I am personally more bothered by peole straight or gay having to virtually undress each other and make sexual references in public on the site, I understand others are not and I am not complaining per say, but freedom of speech means freedom of speech, this also means two people can communicte in whatever language they wish, even publically. I think the site will always default to English because most of the people are from an English speaking country and it's the de facto language of the community so if you want to make a joke or get to know someone this is the language you need to use, hence no worrying the site will turn into some mini version of Mexico or China or Norway, so the occasional qns in a foreign language just should not bother you guys and assuming everyone speaks English all of the time, dare I say it, sounds that little tiny bit arrogant to me. If this was constantly going on 24/7, yes, you would have valid concerns but given all the other stuff that goes on through quick notes, the rather limited amount of foreign language you see and the freedom of speech policy of the site I can't see how you have a big reason to complain about this.
cheers
-B
I think B makes a very valid point about what people might not like on this, or any other site. I think we all have our preferences about what we would perhaps not like to have to see or put up with. For some it is bad language, for some it is the eternal declaration of undying love and sexual reference, and for some it is the fact that some might choose to speak a different language on occasion. And yes, it comes down to freedom of speech, and it also comes down to freedom of something else, the freedom to log out, or not take part in said conversation. After all, if you see something you don’t like on TV, do you sit and watch it? Or do you switch it off. Personally I’ve always found people who complain about programmes on television a little bit sad, unless that programme say, might have been shown before the watershed and could be seen by young children or whatever, but otherwise, we all know where the on off switch is, and the same applies to the internet. It’s not like people are constantly speaking spannish, or constantly swearing, or constantly virtually undressing each other – if people don’t like it, they don’t have to stay and watch.
I don't think that their should be a watershed and I don't think that people should complain about what they see on Television. Did you know that you can hear Westwood unedited on the BBC's Radio 1 website at any time? Aren't they supposed to have a responsibility to their audience and doesn't it bother parents that while their backs are turned, their 9 year-old kids for example could be listening to Westwood with an undeveloped mind and therefore be influenced to do some of the things described in the music on that show? I personally don't have a problem with it, except that ist is doublestandards when there is one rule for BBC TV output and another one for BBC Internet output. Zoe Ball said the word fucking at 7:00 in the morning on Radio 1 and this was viewed to be unacceptable by the BBC.
There are people in America who think that English should be the only language spoken by absolutely anyone who lives here. I think they want this merely for their own convenience because they feel they are entitled never to be inconvenienced by anyone. I don't really have a problem with people speaking other languages either on this site or real life. I figure they're not doing it on purpose because they think it'll bother me. Besides, I go here on the boards and rarely Quicknote and don't chat. Doesn't bother me.
Um, a little button comes to mind, ignore. And for those of you that don't like what is being said and what language it is said in, use it! That would be the smart thing instead of complaining! Don't you think? smile- angel
I have no problem doing that. And don't come hunting me down asking me if I ignored this one and that one. I'm not gonna try to understand a language that I can't understand. And I'm not gonna spend hours on google looking up the info when I could ask for a translation, which is not possible for me here. If we should find it on google, why don't the people that don't speak english look it up on google themselves, since we have to look their language up. Point blank.
cm, the question is, why should they look it up ? If they knw someone who speaks their language and you are curious enough to want to find out what they're saying, then you can look it up.
Then why should we look their language up if they can't look english up?
Hm, sometimes it is fun to just speak a language that you know (and that is perhaps your native language) with others who also know it, particularly if you don't get to speak it very often. Personally I'd get a huge kick out of another Swiss person on here, and I'd most definitely be open to a couple of conversations in the broadest Swiss German :-). But on the other hand, I also know that it can be annoying to witness a conversation that you can't understand. Being as nosy as I am, that really drives me crazy. It would be even worse, I imagine, if you are a JAWS user and JAWS reads every public quicknote whether you want to hear it or not, and you don't really get the option to skip it once you realize you can't understand it (or can you?). So, if the conversation is only between two members, it might me nicer for everyone to keep it limited to private quicknotes. But then again, this is just a web forum, and one of its purposes is to play and have fun, and perhaps exchanging notes in Spanish accomplishes that while not really hurting everyone else all that much?
I'm in total agreement with Michelle 414 here. If you did a search on google for what was being said, you'd have to do a search on every word in the conversation. And in order to look up foreign words, you have to know how to spell them correctly. How can you look words up in another language if you can't spell them? It would probably be no trouble to look up one word, but a whole bunch of words to understand a conversation? As for people speaking another language in quicknotes, if i used public quicknotes, I would put them on ignore. Voice chat rooms are a bit different though. You can't put people on ignore in voice chat as easily as you can when you're in text chat, or quicknotes.
I was on the paltalk program once, and we were all in a room, and someone came in who could barely speak english, and after a few minutes, he said rather plaintively that he couldn't understand what we were talking about. The host said, well, I don't know what to say.
wonderwoman
aren't all sights international? I mean, whoever has a computer can go on any sight they want to, so all sights are basically international.
wonderwoman
With respect to spelling the frazes or words of a forign language properly, a simple process called pasting and copying comes to mind. Google allows u to translate several languages both ways, including English. And, why should a few members that want to talk in another language have to accomidate u in this way, when u r too lazy to look it up yourself? It's not like u r engaged in a conversation someplace, u have all of your computer's resources right there in front of u when u r on here. Think of it this way. With the time u spent here complaining, u could have used that time to look up the text u were curious about. And as a77 said, there is an ignore button, use it however u see fit.
Sugar baby do still remember how to speak afrikaans? kan je ook nederlands verstaan? Star
ja star ek verstan ook nederlands - that is, I also understand dutch.
cm and WonderWoman, if the messages are not written in English they are probably mostly intended for audiances that understand the language they are written in, hence, if you are curious enough it's up to you to find out what was being said (and yes, you can copy and paste this into Google for example), but that's why it's your responsibility to trnalste it if you care enough about what was being said and the other person who wasn't aiming the comments at you doesn't have to translate it into English for your benefit.
LIke I said, if this happened all of the time I'd see you having a bit of a problem with it but since this is only a few notes a day I stick tomy previous post regarding this issue.
cheers
-B
Then they should be targeted at those audiences instead of audiences which won't understand them.
why, haven't you ever directed a quicknote at a particular user but in public? well you should do it in private quicknotes then! after all, the rest of the site shouldn't have to listen to you talking to specific users!
Ok, here's what I don't get. Some people were making a big stink about a user I ignored, (won't mention any names here) and they were trying to pull something out of me as to why I ignored this person and one of the reasons they threw at me was because of the languages, which was not the reason. I feel like this, if I ignore a person due to a language I can't understand and won't try to understand, why make a biggy about it? And if I don't tell why I ignored the person, why should it be anybody's business as to why I ignored the person? And why shouldn't a person have a right to ignore a person for speaking languages they don't understand? I mean, isn't that why we have the ignore feature up folks?
you're off topic now but here's the reason. if you ignore a user, then ignore them! and the world does not need to know you've ignored someone, if you don't wanna talk to someone that's your perogative, but then don't get involved in conversations about that user while the specific user is on the site. in short, if you don't want to talk to someone,then don't put them down to their face either.
cm, you provoked that discussion by telling everyone you ignored that user. You brought it up and of course if a topic is brought up it will be discussed.
Well CM you did draw attention to yourself by stating you ignored the user, but you are entitled to ignore any user you want to using the relevant features and you don't owe anybody any explainations about why you might have chosen to ignore them or anybody else. Whether or not you state your reasons is entirely your choice.
excuse me, kc, I was not complaining, I was simply stating that I would put them on ignore if it were quicknotes. I never said I was curious enough to look the phrases up, actually I wouldn't, and I never said they had to. I just think sites or rooms where people who come in who can't speak the language is just something we have to bare. If I can't understand them, I leave, simple as that.
wonderwoman
Yeah wonder woman, that's the thing to do. If u don't like it, just leave. I wasn't directing my comments at u, I'm refering to these people that get angry because they can't understand a certain language and feel that this site should be restricted to English only public quicknotes. That would be discrimination, would it not? The bottom line here is that there will be no such restriction on this site. Simply ignore the person that bothers u, or move on to the next quicknote.
well, I'm just glad I have public quicknotes turned off. I was just saying in an earlier post, that if it were in a room, a voice chat room, if everyone was talking one language, and then 2 people came in and just started talking in another language without even giving the others in a room a chance to choose another room, it would be a bit rude, but by the same token, it would be just as rudeif we did the same thing to them. I went in a room once on microsoft chat, and it sounded like it would be a nice room, and it was new to me, so I went in a room, and when someone acknowledged me, I told them I was new, and he said, I see. So I started a conversation, then he said he couldn't speak english, then he went on talking in whatever language it was. I was frustrated, not furiously angry, but I figured microsoft chat was predominantly other languages, because I couldn't find a room name that made sense, so I left, not in anger, just disappointment. But on that paltalk program I was talking about, I think there were a couple of people from another country who got angry, because when they came in a room where people were mostly talking english, they got irritated, and there were just oodles of rooms for people who spoke other languages. I guess if it were to get to the point on this sight where there were more languages spoken and hardly any english spoken, I'd probably have to leave here, because I've definitely given up on learning other languages. There's just no way to build my vocabulary up.
wonderwoman
Well, the user was using a foreing language today, and someone said that me and WW would have trouble understanding him, and I made it clear that I couldn't read his messages cause I ignored him and that should've been the end of discussion there. But no, someone had to know why I ignored this user and I chose not to bring it up. If I was drawing attention to the discussion, I would've came out and told why I ignored this user, but I chose not to do so I d not draw attention to myself by simply saying that I ignored him. Just for your info.
Sugarbaby, afrikaans is anders geschreven dan nederlands maar ik kan het ook verstaan als ik het lees. Heb je zin in een gesprek in afrikaans/nederlands? zo ja schrijf me terug.
uh huh, anyway, if I could've built my vocabulary up, I would've kept my German up, but I couldn't. And btw, Google is the pits for finding the definition of a word in another language. I'll try almost anything once, as long as it's not dangerous. Well, jodanse was a short word, so I typed it in google's search field, after which google brought up about 875 pages that had the word jodanse, one site being a latin chat site, in castilian spanish, but all google does is give you a rough translation in English of the page, and I mean rough, but I suppose no worse than someone who's beginning in English. It repeated the word Jodanse several times, and I think the castilian spanish site had some message boards, to which it gave a rough translation, but as for finding out what that word means, forget it, google can't help you with individual word translations.
wonderwoman
You don't use the search page of google to do this, but go to the language tools link on the main page. There is a field to type in the text u want translated, then a combo box to select what language u want to translate the text from. It's not perfect, but it will give you a rough idea of what is being said.
Forget it, I have better things to do with my time than to spend hours looking up a language when I can just ask someone for a translation, which I'm not gonna bother doing, since some people are too so-called busy to translate, I put it the other way around but I don't wanna start a war so I better not call people names here. This is simple, if I catch someone speaking a language I don't get, I either ignore it or skip over the conversation. Simple as that.
Yeah and I don't know about this incident yesterday since I was elsewhere at the time, but if someone chooses to ignore someone else there wishes should be respected.
Well I understand that it's not fair to talk in a language people don't understand, in this case you should maybe use private quicknotes. But if for example there are three or four people who know a little German or a little French, I think it's totally okay to exchange their knowledge and talk some sentences in this language.
Well if they can all talk English then they should so noone is excluded.
They should do this most of the time but I think there can be exceptions.
well, I tried to translate the word JODANSE from spanish to english, and google said the text couldn't be translated, huh.
wonderwoman
cm, yes, by saying you could not comment on a user's quick notes because you ignored him you were drawing public attention to the fact that you ignored him (or her of course if we are to keep the user anonymous) how is that not drawing attention to the fact, you could have not said anything.
Hi wonderwoman. You weren't able to translate the word kuz it did not have the acute accent it should have, so it's written "jódanse" rather than "jodanse". Look at the spelling of the first quoted word. I don't think you would want to know what it means though, since it's a common vulgar expression. Namely, the f-word when used to insult someone. Take care, Joaquín
Lol, maybe google did not want to translate such a word, hehehe.
Right right right let's have no more of this pussy-footing around! cmitchel has seen fit to place the lawlord, yes, the lawlord on ignore, as is her entitlement to do so. I have been very much amused by her skirting around trying to safeguard my anonymity, and indeed I would be grateful for such actions if it was of any consequence whatsoever, but it isn't. Cmitchel has the right to ignore me and doesn't need to offer up an explanation for her curious behaviour, and I only say curious because the reason that I think she bases her actions on is somewhat spurious in nature. she hasn't told me the reason, although I really don't mind if she shares any reasons with the rest of you, but I believe I know what the reason is. AS for foreign languages on public quicknotes, you guys really do have very small fish to fry, don't you? This site has participants from many different countries who use many different languages. Now, it is doubled standards of the highest order when the same people who flirt, swear or pass comment on the anagrams in public quicknotes object to people conversing in another language other than their own in the public quicknotes. Nobody says you have to read it, do they? And okay, I know some fools here have said that such conversations should be conducted in private quicknotes, but you can't do that if there's a conversation involving three or more people, can you? it really is a shame that some people are so insular that the odd Monsieur or homme de neige in the public quicknotes causes them to get into such a flap. grow up, or else follow Cmitchel's example and put them on the ignore list, and then create a topic about how you've ignored a particular user. don't worry, Cmitchel, I'm not offended; on the contrary, I'm rather flattered by the amount of attention that has been indirectly devoted to me during this topic.
Sill doesn't work even with the ó. Hmmm. And I thaught it was either chin gal or cogida, although I think I butchered the spelling on the first one. I think i1987 is right, this must be a verrhrhrhry bad word. LOL. Again, u r not being excluded from a conversation just because u r not able to speak a language on here. If it were in ventrillo or something, then u might have a point. In witch case, if the parties involved in the conversation don't feel like translating, do what I do: leave, or wait till they are finished.
I have to agree wit hlawlord. When I said they should do it in private quicknotes, I did not consider that there should even be three or more people. If people don'T like it, they should either turn their quicknotes off or just overread the quicknotes in other languages.
The problem is that certain people assume they have a god-given right, or a right given sy some other religious equivalent of god or bestowed by a secular morality, to pass comment on every conversation that they might be able to overhear. This is breathtaking arrogance of the highest order.
People are free to comment on what they want to comment on. Therefore they have the right.
But people are not free to be privy to anything that they choose. wainderful wangel, once again you have ignored that part of my argument taken from the last two of my posts to this board exclusive of this one, that doesn't suit your view. As a consequence, your argument is a non sequitur, but if you're not sure what a non sequitur is I suppose that isn't much help.
Hi Latino82, thanks for letting me know about that word. I'm afraid jaws won't read that accent symbol, at least mine won't. It reads the word as a whole, and treats it as if there were a space between the letter j and the rest of the word. When I read the word letter by letter, jaws doesn't say anything when it sees that accent sign, but starts talking once i'm past it. Thanks,
wonderwoman
Well, my first language is English, butI can speak 2 other languages, not fluently, but I love it when getting the opportunity to speak or write another language. The fact that people get annoyed at others writing a foreign language in public in the quick notes shows a lack of acceptance and tolerance, and let's face it narrow-minded rubbish. Si vous aimez pas ce que je viens d'écrire, tant pis! bof! si no os gusta que acabo de escribir, no mi problema!
Face it the sight's in english so speak english on the sight when you are sending something other then private messages. If it were written in french then I'd expect french public qn's.
Stupid idea. I would say: Those who want to speak Spanish or German or something can do it. If I knew two people who want to learn German or improve it and want to talk to me in German, I would be the last to say "no the site is in English and so we speak English". And if people comment about it - ignore them. Not with the ignore button but with your mind.
Agreed Ines.
Then feel free for me to insult you in english when use use a foreign language over public qn's, or board posts.
i think people should be able to speak what ever language they want. after all what are translators for?